Oh, Jon is older? I thought Cat was already with baby when Ned went to war but then, that was just my impression from Cat's thoughts in book 1. I'll need to read that part again but if the latter books had more details on it, you must be right. Hmmmm, but Robb did have the older brother vibe with him but maybe that's just because he was legit and Jon was not, so there was the whole insecurity thing going on with Jon.