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Non-spoilery for Season 4.

From a mini conversation at [livejournal.com profile] dean_sam.

.This is young John Winchester. And his son, Dean. It's easy to see where Dean gets his looks from, yeah? A lot of people say that Dean takes after Mary, but to me he looks more like John than he does Mary.
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And this? This is young Bobby. I showed this pic to hubby and he immediately said "Sam".
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The resemblance is quite freaky don't you think? The furrowed forehead, the eyes, the hair ... And the first thing that came to my mind when I saw that pic of Bobby was "Omg, Bobby's Sam's father!!!". Were we ever told why John was not on good terms with Bobby? Did Bobby have an affair with Mary, and did John know about it? And if so, did he suspect that Sam might not be his son? Sam doesn't look anything like John or Dean, and while siblings may not necessarily look alike, their parents don't usually have a close family friend who look like the said sibling!

And, and, was that why John didn't get along with Sam? *gasp*

Not that I want Sam to be Bobby's of course. And yeah, I do hope Kripke or any of the other writers WON'T see the similarites and start thinking along those lines. I like Sam and Dean to be full-on brothers just fine, and that Sam and John were always at each other's throat simply because they're way too much alike, in character if not in looks.

What say you?

And speaking of family resemblance, I think Jensen looks a LOT like his mother. See, so sweet!
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Adult!Dean may not look much like Mary, but young Dean did have some of her features, the blonde hair and all. And this pic hurts, Mary just before she died, and Dean in his last few hours of "normal"
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Not much longer!

Date: 2008-08-13 05:24 pm (UTC)
ext_14888: Yummy (Default)
From: [identity profile] angels3.livejournal.com
I've always said the people who did the casting on this show did a damn bang up job. The fact that everyone is believable in both personality and looks as well as body language is just phenomenal.

Date: 2008-08-13 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Kripke must have the whole story-arc plotted out in his head, in general if not in details, but as much as I love Bobby, I want Sam to remain a Winchester right to the end. Sam Singer sounds kind of ... funny heheh.

Date: 2008-08-13 05:44 pm (UTC)
ext_14888: Yummy (Default)
From: [identity profile] angels3.livejournal.com
Well you know then the whole we can't we're brothers would be a mute point well half mute anyway.

Date: 2008-08-13 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
LOL but still totally illegal! And the thought of them being only half-brothers is rather depressing :/

Date: 2008-08-13 05:50 pm (UTC)
ext_14888: Yummy (Default)
From: [identity profile] angels3.livejournal.com
Yes it really is isn't it?

Date: 2008-08-13 05:28 pm (UTC)
bellatemple: (SPN - <3 Sammy)
From: [personal profile] bellatemple
. . . Dood. You've totally given me plot bunnies. *facepalms*

Also, young Jim Beaver was totally hot! *swoons*

Date: 2008-08-13 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Omg YESYESYES!!! Go for it, Bella!

Date: 2008-08-13 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mews1945.livejournal.com
Wow. Those pictures are fabulous.

Date: 2008-08-13 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Young Bobby is hot, yeah?

Thank you, Julia! :))
Edited Date: 2008-08-13 10:43 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-08-13 06:09 pm (UTC)
ext_35214: (jensen_angie2)
From: [identity profile] munibunny.livejournal.com
Jensen DOES look like his momma, although he does has his dad's face shape.

Weird coincidences, yeah? Well, they are all really handsome men!

Date: 2008-08-13 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Did Mrs Ackles have an affair with JDM I wonder?

Hee!
Edited Date: 2008-08-13 10:45 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-08-13 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ckll.livejournal.com
Family doesn't end with blood and Bobby knows more than we think

Date: 2008-08-13 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Bobby knows so much about the Winchesters, and now I can't wait for episode 4!

Date: 2008-08-13 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tj-smartz.livejournal.com
Dude! Bobby was hot when he was younger. And yes, very suspiciously similar to Sam. Makes all those "family" references a little more meaningful. Ah no, I like the family set up the way it is but it's fun to speculate and to perv on John and Bobby in their fine old days!

Date: 2008-08-13 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Yep, all those "You boys are like my sons" take on a whole new meaning now *g*

And who would have thought that Bobby used to look like that?

But on the flip side ... think Sam in 20 years time ...

:D

Date: 2008-08-14 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowc44.livejournal.com
Good point, except it seems like Bobby really let himself go after his wife died. If you take his house as an example of his state of mind, looking at it 15-20? years ago when his wife was extremely recently dead, and now, he's probably let himself slide along with the house. Whereas Sam, if Dean is still around, is more likely to take better care of his health and his body in general, so he'll probably age more gracefully than Bobby.

Date: 2008-08-14 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
But Sam in 'Mystery Spot' when he was without Dean for months, he was even more immaculate than ever. I was kind of hoping for a scruffy Sam then, as well as in S4, at least in the 1st episode, because scruffy!Sam is all kind of HOT!!

Date: 2008-08-14 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowc44.livejournal.com
Hm...scruffy Sam isn't as hot, to me, as well-groomed Sam, but I suspect I'm in the minority in thinking that. Any way you look at it, though, Sam in 20-30 years will look better than Bobby does now. I'm guessing Bobby's around his mid-50's now.

Date: 2008-08-14 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tj-smartz.livejournal.com
And who would have thought that Bobby used to look like that?

I bet he had many an admirer back them!

But on the flip side ... think Sam in 20 years time ...

Dude! It does't bode well. Dean, however, just gets better with age!

Date: 2008-08-14 06:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-o-r-h-a-e-l.livejournal.com
Sam and Dean to be full-on brothers

So if Sam's Bobby's kid, it's not really Wincest...

:D

Date: 2008-08-14 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Mary is still their mother though ...

Any idea what Mary's maiden name was?

Date: 2008-08-14 07:14 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-08-14 08:33 pm (UTC)
bandwench: (Jensen self-hug)
From: [personal profile] bandwench
OMG! I can not believe the resemblance between Jeff/Jensen and Young Bobby/Sam! I would have not believed it without photographic evidence, so thanks so much for supplying that for my entertainment.

I keep thinking about Kripke blurting out "there not brothers" at the Con and Sera quickly saying he was always teasing like that. It's just enough to get my mind working overtime that you might be on to something regarding their parentage. I don't suppose them being half-brothers would make any difference in their well-developed brotherly feelings for each other IF Kripke would decide to fuck with the fans that way, but I don't think it would be a favorable move if he decides to go there. Not that he worries too awful much about pleasing the fan base. *ahem*

You've given me some most interesting food for thought with this entry. Thanks!

Date: 2008-08-14 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Half-brothers is better than them not being brothers at all! I read a couple of fics a little while back where the YED killed the real baby!Sam and replaced it with another. Good stories, both, but I didn't enjoy them.

Jared also mentioned something about the possibility of Sam and Dean not being brothers in one interview, so yeah, I'm kind of nervous about that. The other thing that I'm worried about is them no longer being as close as before, that there's something keeping them apart. Still speculating here, I haven't read any of the spoilers. But I did stumbled across one spoilery icon yesterday and omg I just about swooned when I saw that!! :))

Date: 2008-08-15 12:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] summershobbit.livejournal.com
Lovely lovely! What more can I say.

Date: 2008-08-15 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
It's so much fun speculating!!

Date: 2008-08-29 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stawberynvanila.livejournal.com
Wow, JDM loos soo young and handsome. I'' snag the JDM one and Jensen one. I hope you don't mind. Will credit you when i used. ;)

*Hugs*

Date: 2008-08-29 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
No, of course I don't mind!

Btw, hon, you know that manip of yours of Jared holding a baby with a bottle of milk, with Jared half-asleep and the pic's in a frame with a teddy-bear on it? I wonder whether I could use it for an old fic that I *might* be re-writing into a J2 one?

Date: 2008-08-29 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stawberynvanila.livejournal.com
Wow, hon, i'd be delighted that you'd like to use it. Sure, you have my express permission to use it. Let me know if you want it personalized. ;)

*Hugs*

Date: 2008-08-29 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Let me know if you want it personalized

Well, since you offered ... I wonder if I could have the pic without the frame? And he's supposed to feed the baby in the early hours of the morning, with just the night light on, so I wonder if the colouring could be muted or something?

*bites nails*

Date: 2008-08-29 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stawberynvanila.livejournal.com
I'll see what i can do. ;)

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