OMG FOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I've heard people who've watched the preview saying that the premier is set to look really good. I can't wait!!
I'll be back on LJ proper tomorrow. Still on fly-by post today, or rather, crawl-by *glares at dial-up*
4. 'Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things'.
This scene starts with Dean driving, silent, none of his usual classic rock playing in the background. Sam's glancing at him on and off. Dean pulls over by the roadside, a very scenic place with a deep ravine to on one side and pine trees on the other.

Dean sits on the hood, Sam follows him,looking concerned.

They talk. Or rather, Dean talks.
Dean : "I'm sorry."
Sam : "For what?"
Dean : "The way I've been acting." ( That trembling lower lip again omg )
Dean says it was his fault that John's gone. He made a full recovery, and John died, the Colt was gone and Dad's dead because of me.
Dean: "You and Dad, you're the most important people in my life. I never should have come back. I was dead and I should have stayed dead. You wanted to know how I was feeling ... What could you possibly say to make that all right?"

Sam has no answer to that. The camera pans up showing them standing side by side, leaning against the front of the Impala.

So many things that I love about this scene. So many. Dean finally opening up to Sam on what he has kept bottled up all this while since John died. Things that Sam has been pestering him to talk about, telling Dean that he's spinning out of control with all the things that Dean kept inside. Dean saying that John would have been alive if not for him, that he's not worth whatever deal John made with the demon. Dean basically saying that he's nothing. And that there's nothing Sam could say about that.
I like it that Sam remained silent after that. It would have spoiled the sombre mood if he started talking then, and I'm quite sure Sam actually had plenty to say. But it wasn't the right time. Dean had talked, and that's good enough. Because getting Dean to talk, really talk is not easy. Especially when it comes to his feelings.
I love hearing what happened after that take. Jensen just took off, alone, apparently unable to shake off the Dean-angst.And Jared followed him. He later said in interviews that he sat with Jensen, telling him that Jensen did good. Knowing Jared I bet he had said a lot more, but that's between him and Jensen. We can only imagine what was really said then.
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Date: 2008-09-14 11:43 pm (UTC)Now that I think about it, in one of the last episodes, maybe Time Is On My Side, Dean gives some kind of speech about he's the only one that can save him, and when Sam adds, "And me," Dean got a little huffy about it. This is one reason I don't like sarcasm/irony, etc., it's hard for me to tell sometimes when someone is being serious or making a joke. Maybe Dean just wished he hadn't said what just came out of his mouth, and was trying to deflect Sam from continuing the conversation, but it came across (to me) like he was completely dismissing the idea that Sam could save him.
But then, I'm pretty sure I take a lot more offense at some of the things the guys say to each other than they do. They can often shrug it off, or recognize that it's the same kind of "teasing" they've been doing all their lives. I tend to take hurtful things as being meant to be hurtful, because that's the way my family did things. Or at least, if they were joking around, there was nothing to balance it out to show they didn't mean it as hurtful. So I'm constantly getting annoyed at Dean or Sam for being insensitive, when a lot of the time it's probably like water off a duck's back.
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Date: 2008-09-14 08:10 pm (UTC)Where did you find out what happened after this scene was taken?? I've been searching my DVDs and I've come up with nothing. :((
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Date: 2008-09-14 10:19 pm (UTC)We knew about that last part from SPN news, reports and various interviews. They didn't mention it in the DVD, much to my disappointment too!
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Date: 2008-09-15 02:30 am (UTC)I can see why Jensen had to take a walk.
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Date: 2008-09-15 03:02 am (UTC)And yeah, some of that is John's fault. He loved his boys but he screwed up. Sorry, but there it is.
And Dean, poor boy, needs major therapy.
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Date: 2008-09-15 04:07 am (UTC)I sometimes wonder if Dean's single-mindedness protection of Sam is because of John's orders, or is it because he geniunely cares about Sam.
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Date: 2008-09-15 04:38 am (UTC)Speaking of hugs, I think the hug in Mystery Spot is Jared's revenge. Both the hugs in AHBL2 and MS had to hurt. LOL.
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Date: 2008-09-15 02:49 pm (UTC)I think, re Dean's protectiveness, that it's both: John's orders and that he loves Sam. The two are inseparable. His entire sense of self is bound up in keeping his family safe, because he had his mother ripped away at such a formative age. He had only a father who was dealing with his own grief and obsession and therefore probably a little distracted. I imagine John alternately training Dean hard and then kind of leaving him be. Not to mention leaving him in charge of Sam when he was just a child himself! The more Dean proved himself reliable, the more John relied on him.
I could go on and on, but I gotta go to class!
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Date: 2008-09-15 03:02 am (UTC)You and Iorhael are killing me here! At least send me some more tissues.
*blows nose*
Thank you for the fic rec!
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Date: 2008-09-15 03:10 am (UTC)We're going to need them for the upcoming premier, too!
And you're welcome, darling Chloe :))
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Date: 2008-09-15 03:30 am (UTC)I think it was one of the best tv moments of all time. The way how they film it, the way how dialogue (actually monologue) was written and how the scene was acted. You just feel it - all tensions and emotions tearing Dean apart...
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Date: 2008-09-15 08:36 am (UTC)As usual, superb performance by Jensen here. Guh, he should have been nominated for an Emmy many times over!!
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Date: 2008-09-15 12:18 pm (UTC)he should have been nominated for an Emmy many times over!!
It's not even funny anymore how those arrogant mediocre people afraid to even nominate him. They're like robots - continue to give awards to the same actors when there are plenty of new names and faces around - talented people, not ordinary people. And then they wonder why people refuse to watch Emmys and Oscars... Huh...
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Date: 2008-09-15 08:32 am (UTC)♥
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Date: 2008-09-15 09:00 am (UTC)I just can't say anything more eloquently about this episode than you.
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Date: 2008-09-15 11:06 am (UTC)Dean has such a hard time opening up to Sam, so this was a huge moment for them both. I agree, I think Sam had plenty to say, but realised that now wasn't the time, that he'd be doing more damage by speaking than not. I love the fact that we can see tears welling up in Sam's eyes, but he manages to contain them because, again, that wasn't what Dean needed right then.
Excellent choice, Layne :)
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Date: 2008-09-15 01:09 pm (UTC)Jensen is such a total opposite of Dean, usually, but in this scene I have a feeling that Jensen's more or less playing himself, which is probably why he found it hard to shake off Dean's emo there.
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Date: 2008-09-16 02:17 pm (UTC)see i was a dean girl from the start, it was his badassery (thats not a word but whatever) that i was drawn to and his love for his dad and his brother. Then as the show went along we got to see that he had insecurities and hide all of that.
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Date: 2008-09-17 02:10 pm (UTC)Oh this is an awesome post Lin. You captured the essence of that scene so brilliantly.
Hee - you angst queen!
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Date: 2008-09-17 03:00 pm (UTC):D
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Date: 2008-09-17 03:26 pm (UTC)But I love it!