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Her thoughts on what Dean said to Sam at the end of 5.01 here.

Which I think people should read.

Date: 2009-09-14 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-refined.livejournal.com
Ah, thank you for linking that! I totally enjoyed it, though I normally avoid meta like the plague, I knew I could trust you to link me to something good :)

I just... love that face Sam pulled at the end, it broke my heart. When he REALIZED what Dean was saying, that he has actually lost his brother's trust, that he has damaged Dean and their relationship so badly. I was rewatching "What Is and What Should Never Be" yesterday and Sam gets almost the exact same expression when he realizes Dean is about to stab himself in the Djinn world.

I don't know, I just love that look on his face. I could write epics about that expression! (But instead I'll just ramble about it :P)

Date: 2009-09-14 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quarterwhore.livejournal.com
Thanks for the link! I loved it. :D

Date: 2009-09-14 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] albeitslowly.livejournal.com
Thanks for linking. I never would have seen that.

Date: 2009-09-14 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mews1945.livejournal.com
Thank you, Layne. How nice to read a thoughtful, reasoned analysis of the episode. She pointed out things that I'd missed, and her screencaps helped a lot to illustrate just what she was talking about.

Date: 2009-09-14 03:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] munibunny.livejournal.com
Interesting... I watched Devil's Trap right before this too and I wonder if that influenced my thinking a little bit as well. She articulated very well what my thoughts were... through my Dean-colored glasses. :D

Date: 2009-09-15 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Well-balanced metas are hard to come by these days ;D

It has always been Dean who's afraid of Sam leaving him, I guess the table has turned somewhat now. And I don't want them to leave each other, I want them to be unhealthily co-dependent for the rest of their lives!

Date: 2009-09-15 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
You're welcome, Allie! :)

Date: 2009-09-15 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
You're welcome, Tracy. A nice change from some of the bashings that have been going around, eh?

Date: 2009-09-15 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Have you read her fic here (http://sarka.livejournal.com/245563.html#cutid1)? It's awesome. And it's gen so you can read ;D

Date: 2009-09-15 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
I want to watch all of seasons 1 and 2 just to see those eye-fuckings that have been sorely missing lately.

But at least Dean still calls Sam "Sammy".

Date: 2009-09-15 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rieyll.livejournal.com
Hm, I haven't read any meta, so I don't really know what other people are saying about this.

But honestly? What Dean said in the final scene took me by surprise. Because the whole time I thought I saw guilt (for lack of a better word) in Dean every time Sam tried to apologize. I mean, as far as I remember, Dean had not told anyone that he broke the first seal, right? (I could be wrong about this, but I'm too lazy to check.) So when Sam asked him if there's anything he wanted to say, I half expected Dean to be all, yeah I'm sorry, I started the apocalypse by breaking the first seal.

So, am I the only one who thought that?

Date: 2009-09-15 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
I was upset at first, because I really wanted them to get back to the way they were but I guess that was too much too ask. No matter what his motivations were, Sam had chosen Ruby over Dean and that was what the whole issue was all about. It wasn't about who started the apocalypse but more about family betrayal and you know how Dean feels about family.

And Dean had spent the whole of season 4 wallowing in his guilt - him bowing down to Alastair, him ( unknowingly ) breaking the first seal - he might not say it in so many words but it was all there, his guilt. Because really, how could he apologize for something he unwittingly did under 30 years of duress and torture. And, he did NOT blame Sam for the apocalyspe, he was angry for the betrayal and that's a huge difference there.

Date: 2009-09-15 07:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-o-r-h-a-e-l.livejournal.com
How I wish I could write something like that. *sighs*

Btw, my friend here also said that Dean's anger is basically not because of Sam's breaking the seal but because he chose Ruby over him. Awww, Dean!

Date: 2009-09-15 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Dean merajuk - major, major merajuk ... :)

Date: 2009-09-15 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mews1945.livejournal.com
I'll give it a go. Thank you.

Date: 2009-09-16 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-o-r-h-a-e-l.livejournal.com
He is super jealous or what. :D

Wow. Now I wonder who is a spoilt child, Sam or Dean.

Date: 2009-09-16 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Dean is only "manja" with Sam :DD

Date: 2009-09-16 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-o-r-h-a-e-l.livejournal.com
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Now what could Sam do to Dean? :D

And this makes me want to read fics where Dean/Jensen is extremely manja and merajuk to Sam/Jared and makes the latter very confused as how to remedy that. :D

Date: 2009-09-16 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
It's going to be a long, hard road for the adik to pujuk the abang :))

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