A question.

Oct. 3rd, 2009 02:42 pm
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Is Lucifer the same as the Anti-Christ in the Christian belief? ( They're 2 different entities in my faith ). Because Sam was thought of as the next Anti-Christ back in season 3 so I just wondered.

Date: 2009-10-03 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ckll.livejournal.com
I think he is AntiChrist

Date: 2009-10-03 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
They used to mention AC before in season 3 I think but not anymore now. Heh, I think I have to re-watch Sin City :)

Date: 2009-10-03 06:57 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] angels3.livejournal.com
No the Anti-Christ is a human that starts the ball rolling on it's way to hell.

K-12th grade of Christian school can teach you a few things :)

Date: 2009-10-03 07:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mochness.livejournal.com
That's how it is in Islam, too.

Layne, I don't watch SN but I agree with Angels3's reply. I think it's a universally shared idea, religion-wise.

Date: 2009-10-03 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Dajjal = Antichrist, I think? And the resurrectuion of Isa comes after ( or is it during ) the time of the Dajjal, right?

Date: 2009-10-04 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mochness.livejournal.com
Yup, that's him. During, since Isa kills Dajjal in the end. I agree with the little chat under; Dajjal is pretty charismatic. He's also quite a liar, since he convinces people that the road to hell is heaven and the opposite.

Date: 2009-10-04 05:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
And also, I believe during his reign it'll be a time of total chaos with widespread famine and you have to do what he says in order to survive. I remember reading Stephen King's The Stand and thinking about Dajjal at that time.
Edited Date: 2009-10-04 05:32 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-10-06 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mochness.livejournal.com
Haven't read King's The Stand (have the book but haven't read it), but I agree with what you wrote =D

Date: 2009-10-03 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
And that would be one scary dude indeed!

Date: 2009-10-04 02:22 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] angels3.livejournal.com
Actually he's supposed to be very charming and full of charisma that's how he's supposed to take over everything.

Date: 2009-10-04 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
And that's probably what make some of the bad guys even more scary, how they appear charming and all on the outside and totally rotten inside. I heard Ted Bundy was like that?

Date: 2009-10-04 02:57 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] angels3.livejournal.com
Yeah.

I never saw the appeal in Ted Bundy, he wasn't attratctive at all.

Date: 2009-10-04 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Not quite sure how he looked like but I saw a movie about him once and they cast Mark Harmon ( he was young and hot at that time, one of my heartthrob ) as Bundy.

Date: 2009-10-03 06:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] takobella.livejournal.com
Jesus is to God, what the Anti-Christ it to the Devil :)

Date: 2009-10-03 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
So Anti-Christ isn't the same as Lucifer. Thank you!

Date: 2009-10-03 07:27 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] munibunny.livejournal.com
Yes, well, I guess this show does set Sam up as the Anti-Christ, huh?

Date: 2009-10-03 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
That was what I thought in season 3 but there's no mention of the word Anti Christ now, and none during season 4 either I think, so I was a bit confused there.

Date: 2009-10-03 09:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] albeitslowly.livejournal.com
That's something I tried to figure out when I was researching my bigbang fic this year. And there just really isn't any clear answer. To some people it's the same being, I guess, but there are plenty of myths to support them being separate but linked.

Or, you know, basically what everyone else just said. :P

Date: 2009-10-03 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Or Dean could be the Anti Christ to Sam's Lucifer ( only in SPN of course ) :-0

Date: 2009-10-03 12:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] casey28.livejournal.com
Kripke said in an interview that "Lucifer is not the Antichrist.  Lucifer is to the Antichrist as God is to Jesus, if you believe in Jesus."

"

Date: 2009-10-03 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
The Anti Christ is Lucifer's follower than? Or the Devil's child?

Date: 2009-10-03 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] casey28.livejournal.com
I imagine he'd have to be a follower of Lucifer. I don't think it's Sam, because how can Sam be his vessel and be the anti Christ as well?

Date: 2009-10-03 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xwacky.livejournal.com
I'm not religious so I'm hardly knowledgeable on this. But I understand Anti-Christ is the opposite of Christ. In this vein, I guess Anti-Christ to Lucifer mirrors Christ to God.

But then there is Trinity where as Christ is 1/3 of the same being (as I understand). So does that make Anti-Christ part of the "Anti-God"?
Edited Date: 2009-10-03 05:04 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-10-04 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
I just got it into my head that Dean would be the Antichrist to Sam's Lucifer. That Dean would follow Sam down the dark path. Or maybe I've read too many fanfics :D

Date: 2009-10-05 09:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ala-tariel.livejournal.com
Uhm.....Anti-Christ is Dajjal, right?
Lucifer is a fallen angel and I guess he's not a Dajjal.

Date: 2009-10-05 11:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
That's what I thought too! Though they're probably not described in exactly the same way :)

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