SPN 5.18

Apr. 17th, 2010 01:13 am
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Okay, I need to watch that again to really process it. But I have this burning, burning question to ask you guys, because I've probably heard it wrongly. Did Zachariah said they were erotically co-dependent?

Anyway, wow. What an episode. Yup, I have to watch it again tomorrow. In the meantime, I need to have these pretties on my LJ now.

Jill, Kelly and Sabrina.
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Sam doing research is one of my favourite Sams!
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I was biting my nails here. Nerdy angel was seriously pissed off with his charge, wasn't he? And pliant-looking Dean is so my thing.
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Very nice shot of Adam.
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I think he's a lot better here than he was in 'Jump The Shark'. Not that he wasn't good before but he's quite awesome this time around!
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Niiiice ...
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It almost looked like he was saying his goodbye.
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Dean begging is a sight to behold.
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Adam looked like Dean quite a lot!
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SamandDean. The return of. I hope.
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Date: 2010-04-16 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] albeitslowly.livejournal.com
Yes, he DID. A few people are claiming he said neurotically, but if that's what he was supposed to say, it's NOT WHAT HE SAID. LOL. I suspected when I read that line in the spoilers that people were just hearing it wrong, but no. Now, that I've heard it, it's definitely erotically. LOL.

Date: 2010-04-16 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
I didn't notice it when I was watching it on TV but I thought I heard "erotically" when I re-played it on my computer, and it still sounded like it when I repeated it a few times more. Oh my, Sam/Dean is CANON!

Date: 2010-04-16 05:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] angels3.livejournal.com
I use close captions on my tv because so many people mubble that I can't catch things so I knew as soon as it left his mouth I started laughing.

Date: 2010-04-16 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
I wish I have captions too! So I guess it pretty much confirmed that Zachariah said that, eh?

I think my mouth must have hung open when I heard that, I was like What??!!??

Date: 2010-04-16 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trueshellz.livejournal.com
He said erotically
Lol
x

Date: 2010-04-16 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
I couldn't believe my ears when I heard that!

Date: 2010-04-16 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ckll.livejournal.com
Zach said the magic words, lol
I laugh with your first capture.

Date: 2010-04-16 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
HEE! That was my first thought when I saw that scene! And Bobby is Bosley :DD

Oh man, show really did go there, didn't it? I'm still trying to recover from that *faints*
Edited Date: 2010-04-16 05:31 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-04-16 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ckll.livejournal.com
God Kripke loves us and SPN's God loves us too, lol

Date: 2010-04-16 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xwacky.livejournal.com
Yes, yes, he most certainly did say that! You know between "soulmates" and "erotically codependent", I'm as happy as a kitten who just licked cream!

Yay! You finally saw the ep. I have a burning question too, I'll post it when I have time today so we can discuss. :-)

Date: 2010-04-16 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
You know, Jane, I really think that we will be getting our kiss in the finale. After all, there must be a reason for Jensen to look so happy in Rome!

I wonder what your question is!

Date: 2010-04-16 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xwacky.livejournal.com
Oh Layne, I doubt they'd go there, at least not on the lips. There might be a kiss on the forehead a la Dean and Jo (and I prefer Sam doing the kissing), but one of them had to be facing death in order for that to come about.

It seems my Internet connection is down at the moment, and it's such a pain to post via iPhone, so I might have to wait until I go home tonight to pose my question. I can't wait to discuss it with you. I'm quite a bit unsure about certain things at this time (end of 5.18).

Date: 2010-04-16 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Oh no, not on the lips of course, but a chaste, brotherly peck on the cheek or forehead would be more than enough to send us to heaven!!! Though I certainly won't object to an erotic one, since you know, they're already erotically co-dependent and all :DDDDDD

Date: 2010-04-16 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xwacky.livejournal.com
Hee, every time I hear that quote, it makes me smirk.

Like I said, if a kiss like that were to occur, one of them would have to be in dire situation. Not that I'd be complaining since I'm an angst whore whatnot. ;-)

Date: 2010-04-16 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verangel.livejournal.com
eeewwww brothers...can't deal, but the actors, oh yeah! xoxoox v

Date: 2010-04-16 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Lol yeah. Which would explain why Jensen appeared deliriously happy at the con in Rome! ( they've finished shooting the finale then ).

:DD

Date: 2010-04-16 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Hmmm, could it be along the lines of Dean being able to kill an angel?

Date: 2010-04-16 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xwacky.livejournal.com
Yap, it has something to do with that. And he could look straight at the light the dying angel emitted without being affected. Then again there was also the part he was able to kill the "Whore" last week.

Date: 2010-04-16 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Omg yes, that. I thought the cameras focusing on Dean's eyes was somewhat odd but I didn't really think there was any specific reason for it. But now that you said that, yes ... odd ... Hmmm, Michael's grace in Dean? Or Michael's already there all along?????
Edited Date: 2010-04-16 11:09 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-04-16 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Or maybe the dying light of a dying angel is not strong enough to burn retinas?

But I rather like the idea of Michael leaving some of his essence in Mary when he touched her tummy in Song.

Date: 2010-04-16 05:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] angels3.livejournal.com
Yep that's exactly what Zach said *snickers*

Date: 2010-04-16 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
At this rate, I think we will get to see a kiss in the finale. Remember, your heard it first here *nods*

:DDD

Date: 2010-04-16 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mews1945.livejournal.com
Yep, that's what he said. And that last scene, with the two of them in the car, and Dean said, "Let's bring it to them, our way," I wanted to cheer. Finally, they're really together again.

Date: 2010-04-16 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
But oh Julia, it was a close call, wasn't it? If Sam didn't find him at the motel, if Castiel didn't get to him ...

Date: 2010-04-16 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mews1945.livejournal.com
It sure was. They kept us guessing right up to the last moment, when Dean looked at Sam, and you could actually see him change his mind, just before he smiled and winked at Sam. Kudos to Jensen for acting. Man, I thought my heart would stop. It was a well-written episode and it was beautifully acted by Jensen and Jared. Every scene between them was wrenching.

Date: 2010-04-16 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Omg when Dean was looking at Sam, I thought he was silently asking for Sam's forgiveness, that he was saying goodbye! If I could clutch at him, I would have!

Date: 2010-04-16 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mews1945.livejournal.com
I was like Sam, I had faith in Dean, but I still wasn't sure until he actually stabbed Zach

Date: 2010-04-16 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dev-earl.livejournal.com
What I wanted to know was whether Uriel told Cas that only angels can kill angels or only those silver blade thingy would work on one. Because it scared me a little when Dean was able to kill Zachariah with it and I wondered if all Michael needed was the nawaitu and not really the verbal "yes". :/

Um. Also because of the teeny tiny spoiler Jensen said during the LA Con. :|

Date: 2010-04-16 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
That, and also when Dean was able to kill that Whore of Babylon. What if Michael's grace ( or whatever you call it ) was already inside of Dean?

Eeeee! I wonder what that spoiler was!! Shhh, don't tell me :))

Date: 2010-04-16 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dev-earl.livejournal.com
I can't believe I just used the word "nawaitu" in an SPN reaction post. :3

Date: 2010-04-17 06:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-o-r-h-a-e-l.livejournal.com
Sorry to butt in but your nawaitu! :D I certainly will tell my friends. Heheh.

Btw, I'm from Indonesia. :D

Date: 2010-04-16 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] montmorency.livejournal.com
Hah! Yes, I turned to my sis and said "Did he say erotically?!??!?" and she said yep, that's what she heard, too.

I'm so in love with nerd angel Castiel. And Dean still, of course.

Date: 2010-04-17 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Castiel was so kick-ass, wasn't he? He had been somewhat reduced to this bumbling side-kick these past few episodes IMO, and I really miss Cas of season 4, you know, all intoning and scary and stuff. That Castiel was back \o/

My heart broke when he hit Dean - so much love there, don't you think?

I hate Zachariah but he redeemed himself with that erotic thing lol.

Date: 2010-04-16 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oxer12.livejournal.com
Wasn't it good? I'm still flailing and squeeing over here. Dean/Cas is now canon, as far as I'm concerned. And the "erotically co-dependent" was great!

Date: 2010-04-17 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
A lil' bit of Dean/Cas canon, a lil' bit of Sam/Dean canon. Ahaha, talk about fan-service! ( with Dean in the middle, mmmmmmm ... )

Date: 2010-04-17 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowc44.livejournal.com
My close-captioning said "erotically" not "neurotically" which is what I thought I *must* have heard, right? But so far every post I've read has said "erotically". Thank you, Kripke!

Date: 2010-04-17 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
That Zachariah is one kinky angel, yeah? Unless of course, they're really erotically co-dependent in which case Sam/Dean is totally canon!!

Date: 2010-04-17 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowc44.livejournal.com
Yes, Sam/Dean is canon! Though I suppose the vast majority of the audience is supposed to interpret it as Zachariah is being a total dick (duh!) and highly exaggerating things most likely to upset Adam, rather than uttering the gospel (heh!) truth. He did lie to the kid to manipulate him about other things.

But I really prefer the idea that Jeremy Carver is giving a wink and a nod to the Wincesters in the audience. :)

Date: 2010-04-17 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
In a way, I think it's funny ( peculiar ) that Adam's expression didn't change with that erotically codependent thing. I mean, to hear that about your two brothers, there should be something there, shouldn't there? Maybe at least a WTF expression.

Date: 2010-04-17 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowc44.livejournal.com
The only reason I can think of that he didn't react is he was hardly even listening to what Zachariah was saying.

"Your brothers...blah...do what I say and be with your mother...blah...destiny...blah...co-dependent." Something like that. I think it was all so overwhelming he just wasn't really taking in what he said.

Unless Adam had come to the same conclusion in the few short hours he'd spent around Sam and Dean! I have to admit, he had a hell of a lot heaped on his shoulders all at once, with no preparation for the existence of the supernatural. Except for being (probably slowly) eaten by a ghoul.

I liked this version of Adam a lot more than the fake one in Jump the Shark. Poor guy. Trying to be all noble and self-sacrificing, to be with his mom, then being told a freakin' angel was lying to him just to manipulate and use him as bait? In order to trap and ultimately destroy his brothers? Yeah, I feel awful for that kid. Who we'll probably never see, as Adam, again.

Date: 2010-04-18 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Yes, what you said about Adam not really listening to what Zach was saying makes sense. Or else, he already concluded that Zach was a jerk and didn't take what he said there seriously.

What I'm saying next is just a speculation, not a spoiler and if you knew anything more, shhh .. don't say anything about it!

I think it's inevitable that Michael's going to use Adam as his vessel, the way 5.18 ended. Maybe as a temporary vessel, the way he used young John, or maybe as the vessel, since I think Dean's not going to say yes now, and I could see them fighting Lucifer together - Sam and Dean and Adam!Michael. Maybe I've been spoiled for Matt Cohen as Michael ( which I totally LOVE ) because I really don't know what to feel if Jake Abel became Michael. Would he be able to carry it through? Time will tell, and his acting abilities, and the script he was given. I want Matt Cohen back!!

Date: 2010-04-19 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowc44.livejournal.com
I don't know if any of that is true, but it sounds plausible to me. Matt Cohen did make a good Michael, didn't he? I don't see how we'd see him back, but it would be interesting!

I want to know if Sam's ever going to give in and say yes to Lucifer. The only reason I can think of that he'd do it is if he thought it would ultimately somehow allow more people to live, or if Dean was threatened with eternal damnation or something if he didn't. I don't think he'd do it to get power or anything like that.

Date: 2010-04-17 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] casey28.livejournal.com
In that last cap, they look erotically co-dependent, lol.

That wink of love is one of my favorite moments on the show, ever. :)

Date: 2010-04-17 06:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
I miss them touching and holding each other. All those looks and gestures from seasons 1 to 3 that we took for granted, and now so very precious as they're few and far in between!

Date: 2010-04-17 06:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-o-r-h-a-e-l.livejournal.com
I really, really, really can't stop thinking about this episode. But I'm lucky I have two friends at the office so we could immediately talk about it and make me love the ep even more and more.

Erotically? Now that I need to check again. :D

Date: 2010-04-17 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Zachariah oh Zachariah ... he had a pervy mind, that angel lol. I repeated that part many times and I still wasn't sure that I heard that right. But apparently he did!

Oh show ...

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