Someone write me Jacob/Ferris please ...
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aina_baggins rec'd it a little while back. slipperieslope and grievous_angel rhapsodized about it.Do read As Meat Loves Salt if you're in need of a good, long cry. Read it if angst, lots and lots of it, and a love that hinges on obsessiveness and possesiveness are your kinks. Read it if you have a thing for big men/small men *glances at a certain somebody*
And read it if you're ready to howl and scream and beat yourself up ( and the book too, oh yes, that's what I feel like doing right now ).
Btw, Jacob is tall, very tall, and dark and handsome with a *coughs* booming voice.
And Ferris is small and slender, is full-lipped and has a gentle voice.
You know, just to make it easy for you to decide whether you want to read this book or not *g*
For me, there is only one 'Jacob' and only one 'Ferris' :)
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Date: 2006-11-27 09:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-27 11:25 pm (UTC)*hugs you back*
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Date: 2006-11-28 06:00 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-28 03:02 pm (UTC)There are so many unanswered questions in the book esp in the last part. Caro and the baby, Ferris and Caro, was Jane really Caro, the contents of the money-box. And I found this list of questions (http://www.readinggroupguides.com/guides3/as_meat_loves_salt1.asp) regarding the story which I find very intersting.
btw, may I have the link to the post you made on this book a little while back? I'd love to re-read the discussion there.
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Date: 2006-11-28 07:08 pm (UTC)I think I find Ferris the most intriguing character. Sometimes I think he's simply using Jacob for his strength - that the whole seduction thing was done very deliberately, and on others I like to think that he believed in romantic love - after all, he died (or did he?) defending what he believed in, what he loved. So it would be nice to think it was the same with Jacob, at least for a while.
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Date: 2006-11-29 07:57 am (UTC)That is my impression too! Not all the time though, only occasionally. And I truly believe that Ferris was genuinely a good person. Remember what he did to save Joanna?
But the problem is everything was from Jacob's POV. I wish the author would write a second book, not a sequel exactly but the same story told from Ferris' POV.
What do you think of the initial JC on the ring? Guh, I feel like throttling McCann, she's such a tease!!
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Date: 2006-11-30 05:39 am (UTC)I think Ferris did love Jacob in his own way, but I also think that he was a very selfish man - Jacob was almost like some kind of faithful puppy forever sniffing around, wanting forgiveness for his occasional acts of violence, and it almost gave Ferris some kind of power over Jacob to be able to forgive him. It made him seem somehow more. Whether they could have continued if they had managed to establish their Jerusalem is a moot point I think - I suspect that Ferris was growing bored, to be honest. But if he had tried to finish it with Jacob, I suspect that he would have met with a whole world of trouble. Jacob, after all, is a compulsive, violent man with psycopathic tendencies! Not an easy man to dump, I think.
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Date: 2006-11-30 08:50 am (UTC)But no, I didn't get the impression that Ferris was getting bored with Jacob. He didn't like it one bit when Jacob asked Beste about being his prentice. And I think Ferris was more than a little frantic when Jacob came back late from the inn.
Conniving and calculative at times, yes, but out-of-love? Noooo ...
to me, the fact that there are so many open ends means that you can put your own ideas on it - you can make of their relationship what you will.
No Jacob/Ferris from you?
*is hopeful*
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Date: 2006-11-30 06:53 pm (UTC)'fraid not. I don't know them well enough - can't get inside their heads enough to even *think* about writing them. I'm sure that somebody will, though. It's just a question of searching ...
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Date: 2007-02-10 03:55 am (UTC)I agree with greivous_angel that I do not object to the open-ended stuff or the horrible angst, because the writing was so excellent. That is, I ADORE happy endings, but sometimes you don't get them in life. And this ending really seared it into my heart.
That said, if someone writes fanfic from this, I'll read it.
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Date: 2007-02-10 04:01 am (UTC)Are you okay now?
As Ferris said to Jacob, since I got you into this , than I should get you out of it.
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Date: 2007-02-10 04:12 am (UTC)I do feel better now, thank you. Have chatted a bit with Tales also, although she refuses to read something if it's gonna make her cry. Wimp!
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Date: 2007-02-10 04:44 am (UTC)I love stories that make me cry! It shows how good a book is if it's able to move its readers to tears. Or make them fall out of the chair lauighing. Or drive them insane with frustration.
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Date: 2007-02-10 04:48 am (UTC)BTW, Talesinbloom says "Hi." But she won't read the book. Too sad.
*kicks stubborn Jacob and Ferris*
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Date: 2007-02-10 04:51 am (UTC)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p62rfWxs6a8
It's the one Aina rec'd.
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Date: 2007-02-10 05:03 am (UTC)Tales says if she reads that book we must all weep with her. Because she will write sad emo Orlijah fic with no sex, just goth clothing and makeup.
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Date: 2007-02-10 05:11 am (UTC)Oh I cut his hair myself one night
A pair of dull scissors in the yellow light
And he told me that I'd done alright
And kissed me 'til the mornin' light, the mornin' light
I will gladly weep with her. And sad emo Orlijah, even with no sex, is just my thing.
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Date: 2007-02-10 05:15 am (UTC)Sad emo Orlijah... but with smiling through the tears at the end, please!
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Date: 2007-02-10 05:22 am (UTC)gad, i can't even type i'm so emo now
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Date: 2007-02-10 04:52 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-28 07:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-28 08:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-29 08:02 am (UTC)I've been reading the discussions about the book on other sites but I'd love to read what the other LJ-ers think about it.
If I'm not mistaken you were saying something about passing the book around like what
AMLS fanficlet
Date: 2007-02-11 02:14 am (UTC)http://montmorency.livejournal.com/34337.html
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Date: 2006-11-28 06:40 am (UTC)There's really *so* much fanfic potential with that book. There are so many "what ifs". If things had happened only a little differently, it could have ended in an entirely opposite way.
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Date: 2006-11-29 08:15 am (UTC)Yeah, if only Jacob were a little less jealous, less possesive and less obsessive. But then Jacob wouldn't be Jacob, eh?
I've recovered enough to start re-reading the book but I don't think I'll read the end, though. What I had in mind for an alternate ending was Jacob leaving the colony, going back to London and work for whathisname, that husband and wife. Or maybe he'd end up working in the workhouse or something. Ferris would come looking after him, of course. But that would be too tame an ending, I guess :/
Btw, I couldn't find any mention of what year Ferris and Joanna got married. In fact there's no mention of the time period at all ( except for the inscription on the ring ). And she also didn't say anything about how long Ferris and Jacob were tohether from start to finish. Grrr, she did that purposely so we'd be guessing to the end on whether the baby was Jacob's or not.
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Date: 2006-11-28 03:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-29 08:33 am (UTC)This girl, who called herself Ferris with head full of maggots ( *dies* ) recommended these 4 books (http://thedwarfedogge.livejournal.com/417.html#cutid1), along with AMLS, as the 5 most outstanding, recently-published gay-themed books. Have you read any of the other books? Do you have your own recommendations? I've read a few gay lits myself but except for Allan Holinghurst's, they're nothing to shout about. Heh, there are a LOT of LJ writers who are much, much better than those that I've read :)
As Meat Loves Salt
Date: 2007-02-11 02:16 am (UTC)http://montmorency.livejournal.com/34337.html
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Date: 2006-12-19 05:53 am (UTC)Oh my.
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Date: 2006-12-19 08:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-12-19 09:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-12-19 11:12 am (UTC)btw, there are other books of almost the same title. Check the author - Maria McCann.