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[livejournal.com profile] aina_baggins rec'd it a little while back. [livejournal.com profile] slipperieslope and [livejournal.com profile] grievous_angel rhapsodized about it.

Do read As Meat Loves Salt if you're in need of a good, long cry. Read it if angst, lots and lots of it, and a love that hinges on obsessiveness and possesiveness are your kinks. Read it if you have a thing for big men/small men *glances at a certain somebody*

And read it if you're ready to howl and scream and beat yourself up ( and the book too, oh yes, that's what I feel like doing right now ).

Btw, Jacob is tall, very tall, and dark and handsome with a *coughs* booming voice.

And Ferris is small and slender, is full-lipped and has a gentle voice.

You know, just to make it easy for you to decide whether you want to read this book or not *g*

For me, there is only one 'Jacob' and only one 'Ferris' :)

Date: 2006-11-28 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grievous-angel.livejournal.com
Isn't it just *fab*?? Love that book.

Date: 2006-11-28 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
It's way beyond fabulous. I haven't felt that way after reading a book for quite some time now. I'm still feeling the aftershocks.

There are so many unanswered questions in the book esp in the last part. Caro and the baby, Ferris and Caro, was Jane really Caro, the contents of the money-box. And I found this list of questions (http://www.readinggroupguides.com/guides3/as_meat_loves_salt1.asp) regarding the story which I find very intersting.

btw, may I have the link to the post you made on this book a little while back? I'd love to re-read the discussion there.

Date: 2006-11-28 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grievous-angel.livejournal.com
Link away!

I think I find Ferris the most intriguing character. Sometimes I think he's simply using Jacob for his strength - that the whole seduction thing was done very deliberately, and on others I like to think that he believed in romantic love - after all, he died (or did he?) defending what he believed in, what he loved. So it would be nice to think it was the same with Jacob, at least for a while.

Date: 2006-11-29 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
that the whole seduction thing was done very deliberately

That is my impression too! Not all the time though, only occasionally. And I truly believe that Ferris was genuinely a good person. Remember what he did to save Joanna?

But the problem is everything was from Jacob's POV. I wish the author would write a second book, not a sequel exactly but the same story told from Ferris' POV.

What do you think of the initial JC on the ring? Guh, I feel like throttling McCann, she's such a tease!!

Date: 2006-11-30 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grievous-angel.livejournal.com
It's funny but I don't feel the need for anything from Ferris' POV. I know people who have read the book and want just a bit more in the way of explanation, but I don't need that either - to me, the fact that there are so many open ends means that you can put your own ideas on it - you can make of their relationship what you will.

I think Ferris did love Jacob in his own way, but I also think that he was a very selfish man - Jacob was almost like some kind of faithful puppy forever sniffing around, wanting forgiveness for his occasional acts of violence, and it almost gave Ferris some kind of power over Jacob to be able to forgive him. It made him seem somehow more. Whether they could have continued if they had managed to establish their Jerusalem is a moot point I think - I suspect that Ferris was growing bored, to be honest. But if he had tried to finish it with Jacob, I suspect that he would have met with a whole world of trouble. Jacob, after all, is a compulsive, violent man with psycopathic tendencies! Not an easy man to dump, I think.

Date: 2006-11-30 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Yes, Jacob the dancing bear, a man mastered by just a look, as Botts so appropriately said.

But no, I didn't get the impression that Ferris was getting bored with Jacob. He didn't like it one bit when Jacob asked Beste about being his prentice. And I think Ferris was more than a little frantic when Jacob came back late from the inn.

Conniving and calculative at times, yes, but out-of-love? Noooo ...

to me, the fact that there are so many open ends means that you can put your own ideas on it - you can make of their relationship what you will.

No Jacob/Ferris from you?

*is hopeful*




Date: 2006-11-30 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grievous-angel.livejournal.com
No Jacob/Ferris from you?

'fraid not. I don't know them well enough - can't get inside their heads enough to even *think* about writing them. I'm sure that somebody will, though. It's just a question of searching ...

Date: 2007-02-10 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] montmorency.livejournal.com
I didn't think Ferris was getting bored, either. I have to believe that he loved Jacob always - otherwise the weeping will commence anew.

I agree with greivous_angel that I do not object to the open-ended stuff or the horrible angst, because the writing was so excellent. That is, I ADORE happy endings, but sometimes you don't get them in life. And this ending really seared it into my heart.

That said, if someone writes fanfic from this, I'll read it.

Date: 2007-02-10 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
I'll certainly read it if you write it!

Are you okay now?

As Ferris said to Jacob, since I got you into this , than I should get you out of it.

Date: 2007-02-10 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] montmorency.livejournal.com
He DID say that!!!!! Jeebus, he really betrayed Jacob. And ditto, of course.

I do feel better now, thank you. Have chatted a bit with Tales also, although she refuses to read something if it's gonna make her cry. Wimp!

Date: 2007-02-10 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Uh-huh. They betrayed each other 'coz they were too stubborn and too egoistic too see that they had something good between them.

I love stories that make me cry! It shows how good a book is if it's able to move its readers to tears. Or make them fall out of the chair lauighing. Or drive them insane with frustration.

Date: 2007-02-10 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] montmorency.livejournal.com
There is no question - it was a great story because it drew me in and moved me deeply. You know what? It was also funny. I found Jacob very funny at times in the way he would describe things.

BTW, Talesinbloom says "Hi." But she won't read the book. Too sad.

*kicks stubborn Jacob and Ferris*

Date: 2007-02-10 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
I'm listening to this song now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p62rfWxs6a8

It's the one Aina rec'd.

Date: 2007-02-10 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] montmorency.livejournal.com
"You are my sweetest downfall" sounds like she sang. OMG.

Tales says if she reads that book we must all weep with her. Because she will write sad emo Orlijah fic with no sex, just goth clothing and makeup.

Date: 2007-02-10 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Told me I was beautiful and came into my bed
Oh I cut his hair myself one night
A pair of dull scissors in the yellow light
And he told me that I'd done alright
And kissed me 'til the mornin' light, the mornin' light


I will gladly weep with her. And sad emo Orlijah, even with no sex, is just my thing.

Date: 2007-02-10 05:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] montmorency.livejournal.com
I know, I know. The Samson thing just called me in the book. That song fits in a striking way.

Sad emo Orlijah... but with smiling through the tears at the end, please!

Date: 2007-02-10 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] montmorency.livejournal.com
Make that "called TO me"

gad, i can't even type i'm so emo now

Date: 2007-02-10 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
And "Hi" to Tales, too. Wuss :)

Date: 2006-11-28 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grievous-angel.livejournal.com
Oh, if you can even find it. It may have been in another incarnation, I'm afraid. I'll have a look through the back posts (everything gets made private after a month or so) but I think that discussion may not exist in this LJ. That would be sad...

Date: 2006-11-28 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grievous-angel.livejournal.com
Just had a look back and because of my paranoia I tend to do a lot of deleting as well, and would you believe that the first post of this LJ begins when I'm still going on about the book, but the discussion has gone. I think it was probably in the old LJ to be honest - sorry :(

Date: 2006-11-29 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
Oh dear :(

I've been reading the discussions about the book on other sites but I'd love to read what the other LJ-ers think about it.

If I'm not mistaken you were saying something about passing the book around like what [livejournal.com profile] lisabellex is currently doing with her PBZ book. Did you do that?

AMLS fanficlet

Date: 2007-02-11 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] layne67.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] montmorency wrote a ficlet on Ferris here :)

http://montmorency.livejournal.com/34337.html

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